vx4594 Posted November 13, 2013 Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 How did you all think it went? Personally fine until I got to the longer questions where 8 was very simple but 9 & 10 a bit challenging, but I don't remember it all perfectly either. Reply Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiegoA Posted November 13, 2013 Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 How did everyone found Paper 1 and Paper 2 in Maths SL? It's been more than 24 hours for both papers Personally, I found them more difficult than past papers. Reply Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest joaninhagcl Posted November 13, 2013 Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 how did it go for everyone?? Reply Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeanlean Posted November 13, 2013 Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 Hey guys!How did everyone find Paper 1 and Paper 2? Reply Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tusonliu Posted November 13, 2013 Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 Paper 1 was difficult compared to past papers.What was the answer for the question #7 which asked about the value of K when discriminant was higher than 0??? I´ve gotten only one result: 2. Was that because 2 was an assymptote and K could be any number?Paper 2 difficult as well.There was this question about... LOL cant remember.... something about functions of Section A. I think it was question 7. Reply Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiandra S. Posted November 14, 2013 Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 k has two values when the discriminant of the quadratic function is greater than 0. Reply Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
g_ar Posted November 14, 2013 Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 i found paper 2 harder than alot of past papers, there was alot of unfamiliar questions....i just hope they make the grade boundaries lower Reply Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
khimberleigh Posted November 14, 2013 Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 Paper 1 was difficult compared to past papers.What was the answer for the question #7 which asked about the value of K when discriminant was higher than 0??? I´ve gotten only one result: 2. Was that because 2 was an assymptote and K could be any number?I got K is greater than 2I found paper 1 pretty good, but paper 2 much harder than past papers. Reply Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vx4594 Posted November 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 If I recall correctly it was + or - 2.. don't remember perfectlyPaper 1 was difficult compared to past papers.What was the answer for the question #7 which asked about the value of K when discriminant was higher than 0??? I´ve gotten only one result: 2. Was that because 2 was an assymptote and K could be any number?Paper 2 difficult as well.There was this question about... LOL cant remember.... something about functions of Section A. I think it was question 7. Reply Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiegoA Posted November 14, 2013 Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 k has two values when the discriminant of the quadratic function is greater than 0. The discriminant of the function had to be = 0. I got that it could be any number except +2.It was something like (k-2)(k-2)=0 Reply Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
g_ar Posted November 15, 2013 Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 (edited) k has two values when the discriminant of the quadratic function is greater than 0. The discriminant of the function had to be = 0. I got that it could be any number except +2.It was something like (k-2)(k-2)=0no, the discriminant had be >0, because the function has two distinct real roots.....so the answer is k>2 Edited November 15, 2013 by g_ar 1 Reply Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samster Posted November 15, 2013 Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 (edited) I honestly found that Paper 1 harder than the May 2013 one and all the other ones that I had tried. I had no clue how to do most of question 10!I'm hoping that it is scaled down significantly though! Edited November 15, 2013 by Samster Reply Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiandra S. Posted November 15, 2013 Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 k has two values when the discriminant of the quadratic function is greater than 0. The discriminant of the function had to be = 0. I got that it could be any number except +2.It was something like (k-2)(k-2)=0no, the discriminant had to be k>0, because the function has two distinct real roots.....so the answer is k>2 Yes discriminant greater than zero, it it is = 0 then the two root have the same value. 2 Reply Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vx4594 Posted November 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 I saw in some past paper with a discriminant question very similar that you solved for 0 once you had the discriminant expression and I got + - 2, which is what they do on the same exact question on another past paper.. Reply Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
g_ar Posted November 15, 2013 Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 I saw in some past paper with a discriminant question very similar that you solved for 0 once you had the discriminant expression and I got + - 2, which is what they do on the same exact question on another past paper.. the discriminant only equals zero when the function has a repeated or double root. discriminant is >0 if there are two distinct real rootsand discriminant <0 if there are no real roots. Reply Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabslion Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 k has two values when the discriminant of the quadratic function is greater than 0. The discriminant of the function had to be = 0. I got that it could be any number except +2.It was something like (k-2)(k-2)=0If it has two values, then the discriminant has to be more than 0. Therefore, you have to find a range with +- 2 for the values 1 Reply Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiegoA Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 k has two values when the discriminant of the quadratic function is greater than 0. The discriminant of the function had to be = 0. I got that it could be any number except +2.It was something like (k-2)(k-2)=0If it has two values, then the discriminant has to be more than 0. Therefore, you have to find a range with +- 2 for the valuesThe question said that the quadratic function had two different real roots. Therefore, the discriminant had to be >0. We all agree up to that point.Now, the original function was something along the lines of kx^2+(k+2)x+2.Which can be re-written as Ax^2+Bx+C.Therefore, the "B" value was (k+2). Given that the discriminant of a function is b^2-4ac, the discriminant resulted in another function, which had to be >0.The discriminant gave you the following: (k^2+4k+4)-(8k) which is k^2-4k+4. THAT function had to be OVER 0 for the ORIGINAL function to have two real roots.In numbers, (k-2)(k-2)>0For the above equation to be true, k must be ANY number EXCEPT +2. Try it yourselves. That equation is true for any number except for +2 (yeah, you can even try with -2).(I used capitals for the sake of you understanding what I'm trying to express because its difficult to explain math by writting it).That being said, that was what I did on my exam, and if I am wrong in any point, please say so.-Diego 1 Reply Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarah:) Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 k has two values when the discriminant of the quadratic function is greater than 0. The discriminant of the function had to be = 0. I got that it could be any number except +2.It was something like (k-2)(k-2)=0If it has two values, then the discriminant has to be more than 0. Therefore, you have to find a range with +- 2 for the valuesThe question said that the quadratic function had two different real roots. Therefore, the discriminant had to be >0. We all agree up to that point.Now, the original function was something along the lines of kx^2+(k+2)x+2.Which can be re-written as Ax^2+Bx+C.Therefore, the "B" value was (k+2). Given that the discriminant of a function is b^2-4ac, the discriminant resulted in another function, which had to be >0.The discriminant gave you the following: (k^2+4k+4)-(8k) which is k^2-4k+4. THAT function had to be OVER 0 for the ORIGINAL function to have two real roots.In numbers, (k-2)(k-2)>0For the above equation to be true, k must be ANY number EXCEPT +2. Try it yourselves. That equation is true for any number except for +2 (yeah, you can even try with -2).(I used capitals for the sake of you understanding what I'm trying to express because its difficult to explain math by writting it).That being said, that was what I did on my exam, and if I am wrong in any point, please say so.-Diego Yes, discriminant had to be greater than 0.I understand that it's not +2 and also understand that it's any value greater than 2. However, how is it also less than two, like how'd you work out that part... just trial and error? Reply Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiegoA Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 Yes, discriminant had to be greater than 0.I understand that it's not +2 and also understand that it's any value greater than 2. However, how is it also less than two, like how'd you work out that part... just trial and error?Because you know its not +2 you just have to try with any value bigger than +2, and any value lower than +2. I tried with 0 and 5, and noticed that with both numbers the function>0. Therefore, any value bigger or smaller than +2 satisfied the equation Reply Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alicia Maldonado Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 Are you all talking about TZ0? Reply Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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