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And no, not only IB forum admins would find it "amusing". I guess any left-winger would.

Well, that's not true. :D In my class, there are 11 people in my class who vote for the right wing party. All of them find the video funny. What's even more funny is that we're allowed to vote; wow, there's democracy outside the US! I might even add that the Finnish model of government is far superior to the American one, where power is in the hands of a few supreme court justices (read: senile old farts) and the president. :D Sucks to you that Obama won!

What's wrong with socialism, by the way :) ? Nordic countries' HDI, GPI and GEM (click for links) are higher than those of the USA's, so I would say socialism has worked. Oh, look, Norway even has a higher GDP per capita (PPP) than the U.S., so socialism really pays off, doesn't it?

"He alone who owns the youth, gains the future." ~Adolph Hitler

You could also apply that to boy scouts, if you wish. But I come from a socialist country so I must be biased. Also, we're all atheists, and we'll burn in hell. I guess your kids are homeschooled. But hey, homeschooling pays off. Your kids have learned to say 'hands up' and 'gtfo my property' in Spanish. Who needs to speak a language when you know all the relevant phrases!?

A quick guess, if I may: I assume that the number of weapons in your house exceeds ten. Am I right? :)

Agreed, IB has its flaws. But so does every system. The American system just seems to be leaking pretty bad compared to the socialist, atheist, left wing and what not system of IB.

To end this childish, atheist, left-wing, socialist, anarchist, anti-American statement of mine, I'd like to give you a news flash as well. And no, news flash is not capitalized, I guess I'm better at your native language than you are. Portraying a video of the infamous shoe throw does not advocate such violence. On the contrary, it raises discussion (which is positive, no?) about the underlying reasons to this "heinous act". I certainly wouldn't want anyone to think that the reporter threw the shoe at Bush simply because his feet were itching. Rather, I'd post the video not only to amuse people, but to allow for discussion on the causes and justifications of the event.

P.S. (I know, I promised to end this stunt of mine already, but I just have to say this) Bush didn't keep America, and certainly not Americans safe. Remember 911? Or the war in Iraq and Afghanistan. He risked the lives of thousands by his acts.

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The American system just seems to be leaking pretty bad compared to the socialist, atheist, left wing and what not system of IB.

Yes, it does suck that Obama won, but he is merely a puppet of the Bilderberg Group. Did they teach you about the Bilderberg Group in IB? May I recommend a very good book called "Them" by Jon Ronson.

I don't see a happy face after your above quote. Since you are a declared atheist and socialist, I can't tell if you are kidding or serious in your characterization of IB.

And just for a little historical clarification, 9-11 occurred less than 7 months into Bush's 1st term. The terrorist activities had been allowed to grow and fester under Clinton who gave backing to Saddam Hussein ( remember we had a WTC bombing in 93, and the embassy attacks in Kenya and the bombing of the Kohl, all under Clinton's watch). There have been NO terrorist attacks on American soil since 9-11 under Bush's watch. Obummer, in a stealth move without visiting our troops beforehand, is escalating troops in Afghanistan and conducting covert operations in PAHkistan which will inevitably upset the Indian govt. and probably end up in a nuclear war in that part of the world.

But I'm going on vacation and can't be bothered worrying about saving the world or the youth for the next two weeks. Tata!

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Oh, look, Norway even has a higher GDP per capita (PPP) than the U.S., so socialism really pays off, doesn't it?

You're serious? Are you aware that the ENTIRE population of the COUNTRY of Norway isn't even HALF of New York City's? How can you possibly compare a predominantly homogeneous society in a sparsely populated country with the United States?

Oh now THAT'S interesting....... Aboo can edit MY posts?????????????? Wow. Unbelievable.

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You're serious? Are you aware that the ENTIRE population of the COUNTRY of Norway isn't even HALF of New York City's? How can you possibly compare a predominantly homogeneous society in a sparsely populated country with the United States?

Are you serious? Do you even know what per capita means? If you do, then my answer is yes, you can compare the Norwegian society to American society in economic terms. Why couldn't I? It's not even socialist economics, it's classical economics. :D Also, you fail to address the other (better) means of measuring welfare. Size is not an excuse. Besides, should we look at the countries' gini indices, we'd see that the wealth distribution is much more equal here, also adding to welfare.

I'd also like to add that I'm neither a socialist nor an atheist. I'm using a literary device to heighten the effect of my post. I learned it in IB, isn't that cool?

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Are you serious? Do you even know what per capita means? If you do, then my answer is yes, you can compare the Norwegian society to American society in economic terms. Why couldn't I? It's not even socialist economics, it's classical economics. :D Also, you fail to address the other (better) means of measuring welfare. Size is not an excuse. Besides, should we look at the countries' gini indices, we'd see that the wealth distribution is much more equal here, also adding to welfare.

Uhhhh, errrrr, geee, gosh that's a tough one, could it be "average per person"? So the fact that teeny tiny little Luxemborg comes in 1st, do you think the TOTAL number of people whose incomes you are averaging MIGHT be a factor? Ya think?

http://www.wisegeek.com/which-country-has-...n-the-world.htm

So if you want to compare countries of LIKE populations, per capita income and types of government, then you are a level playing field and can fairly assess which system is better for the population. But when you try and pit a country against one 200 times its size, your argument simply falls apart. That's simple math and simple economics.

I'm using a literary device to heighten the effect of my post. I learned it in IB, isn't that cool?

It's not exactly onomatopoeia, but if you think it's cool, hey, to each their own. Personally, I find it rather misleading, obnoxious, disingenuous and arrogant. Why am I not surprised you learned that in IB?

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Please calm down. This is just a discussion thread. :D

~Mike

Hey, I'm quite calm. That Xanax works wonders :D

Btw, why did you use a Hitler quote? Is it because you don't believe in freedom of speech and opinion?

I used it precisely BECAUSE I am a strong supporter of free speech and the U.S. Constitution's First Amendment. And for shock value. I figured it would get your attention.

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I used it precisely BECAUSE I am a strong supporter of free speech and the U.S. Constitution's First Amendment. And for shock value. I figured it would get your attention.

I doubt it. Everyone is a supporter of free speech for views that reflect their own. If you were truly a supporter of free speech, you wouldn't be so insulted by the pic that Hien had up, and so delighted by the fact that she took it down.

If you do not respond to this post but do reply to others, I'll take it as a sign that I am correct and you are indeed anti-free speech.

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I doubt it. Everyone is a supporter of free speech for views that reflect their own. If you were truly a supporter of free speech, you wouldn't be so insulted by the pic that Hien had up, and so delighted by the fact that she took it down.

If you do not respond to this post but do reply to others, I'll take it as a sign that I am correct and you are indeed anti-free speech.

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Oh now THAT'S interesting....... Aboo can edit MY posts?????????????? Wow. Unbelievable.

Oh yes I can. I do it because you don't have the decency to put your answer in 1 post, and choose to post multiple times with each idea that comes in to your head. Relax, I'm not changing the contents of your post.

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Oh yes I can. I do it because you don't have the decency to put your answer in 1 post, and choose to post multiple times with each idea that comes in to your head. Relax, I'm not changing the contents of your post.

The "decency"? Oh stop, you're killing me.

If you were truly a supporter of free speech, you wouldn't be so insulted by the pic that Hien had up, and so delighted by the fact that she took it down.

You appear confused. There is a world of difference between offending others with your "speech" or "messages" and the right to offend. Yes, she has the right. When I told her the images offended me, she took it down. I thanked her. That's the polite thing to do. It wasn't "delight". It was an expression of courtesy, she showed courtesy for my feelings. But yes, I respect her right to post it if she wants to, just as I respect your right to post the Nazi propaganda cartoon, though I'm not quite sure what you were hoping to prove with that. Do you want me to be outraged? I'm not. I don't enjoy seeing the image of the Nazi swastika, but I'm not going to carry on and tell you you can't post it. Again, I fail to see your point.

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